Transiting Pluto is creeping his way to my Descendant and is currently conjunct my Juno.
My life is quite odd right now, no other way to put it for I don’t even completely understand it, after all, it is the first time in this life, at least, that I have been here.
Pluto transit Juno/Descendant is feeling like one, huge contradiction.
So thought I’d place here the separate interpretations for this transit, then bundle it all up, and see what I can see, in it.
JUNO: Represents the partner you need, not necessarily, what you think you want. Many claim Juno is indicative of your Life Partner, your Soul Mate, your All-time, at least this time around the block. (Well, I am divorced, once only thankfully, but obviously that was not my Juno functioning properly there..then again, it could be Uranus in the mix..as stated below.)
So I am looking here at my natal Juno square Uranus.
Yes, I have liked my men to be different, anything but the so-called norm.
I feel Bob over at Bob Marks Astrologer.com sums this aspect up perfectly. π
Bob says: “If you have this combination in your horoscope (especially the stressful aspects, the conjunction, square, or opposition) I have a question for you. Let’s say you walk into a room where there are twenty people, and nineteen of them are sane and normal, but the twentieth person either escaped from an insane asylum or just got off of a UFO, guess which one you would be most likely to marry? (Hint: it’s not the first nineteen)”.
Ok, just to be clear, I have never been a be-a-convict-penpal-type, not knocking those that are, I just like my boys a little more accessible than
that, (kidding..I do have a certain set of standards for my relationships that is just right for me)…the insane type (yeah..have had a few, yet I have a big heart and see the pure potential in every one, took me until my 30’s to learn to see someone as they are today, and work from that angle), anyway, yes, I have had some not-all-that-balanced lovers…just got off a UFO?..no, not yet, but I am completely game there, you just never know till you’ve tried it right?…seriously though, if Albert Einstein were still on this plane, I would LOVE to date him.. π
Also I have, natal Juno residing in my 6th house.
Here within the 6th house, my Juno really wants a union with someone that “I work with, serve with, in some way.”
This, I have never experienced, and it continues to be something that I greatly desire (need??).
It’s not easy to come by a partner though, that can, and will, work side by side with me.
My work is not exactly mainstream.
I keep the hope though…and now that I think upon it, that Uranus square Juno that I carry natally, fits perfectly with this 6th house of mine.
I desire/need a partner that is either, a screwball like me ( not my impression of myself, but I can tell you here in Pennsylvania Dutch land, that is exactly how most see me), or, he is open and willing to try my way on for size.
Natal Juno also is conjunct my Descendant.
And transiting Pluto is now playing footsies with my Juno.
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Now I’m going to shift it up a bit here.
Robert, at Aquarius Papers(see my blogroll), states that the 9th house is your ‘second marriage’.
That, I find quite interesting!
For I currently have both transiting Uranus and Juno within my 9th house.
Hmmm..the plot thickens. π
Moving on to Pluto…..
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PLUTO: You know the little quip, “Don’t let the size of the package fool you?”. Totally applicable here. HUGE energy in a teeny-tiny little package.Power, transformation, death and rebirth.I understand Pluto quite well. He has taught me that if I don’t stand in my power and own it, sure enough, another Plutonian will come along and challenge me in some manner, until I get back into my center and power.
Pluto transiting conjunct Juno: Intense and secretive partnerships. Off the charts sex. π Powerplays and obsession in relationships.(Yes, and no..I am owning my power quite well right now..so the powerplay part I am not noticing, if others are, well..I am not aware of it. The rest though, absolutely dead on.)
Pluto transit conjunct Descendant/opposition Ascendant:
From Cafe Astrology :
*Very important people come into your life now. You meet someone who becomes a strong influence on you. This other person may be a kind of idol, a teacher, or a friend.
+Your relationships (partnerships, lovers) are now very intense and ever so personal. In fact, they are capable of transforming you at the most basic level. A time of real inner growth through other people, the social life.
Yes..I see that beginning now.
I believe I am ready.
I’ve done my work.
Yet am reminding myself daily that I must stay in my own space, in my zone, my personal energy, and own it. π
As a side note: The transiting Saturn (in Libra/relationships) square Pluto (in Capricorn/structures) effecting the entire collective, is most definitely a flavor in all of this for me right now.Β I also have Mars in a longer term transit conjunct my Leo Venus. So I am pretty much deluged in relationships considerations at the moment, as of now though, they are all of the mate/significant other variety. Also, as I have written about in other blogs recently, I have Kundalini once again fully aroused, so..mmm, hmm..you can see the picture.
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I titled this piece today, “No Place for Smoke and Mirrors”, and here is why.
These past few months I believe I have become about as transparent as one can be.
Full honesty, full disclosure, in everything and anything.
No innuendo’s, no waffling about, nor mincing of words.
I say what I mean, and I say what I think, and I have come to fully trust, that what I think and say is what needs to be thought and said, in each and every moment.
I suspect Pluto kissing my Descendant has necessitated this.
If I am not clear, absolutely crystal, about who and what I know myself to be, someone is going to be drawn into my life to ‘help‘ me correct that.
As I stated, I understand Pluto very well. π
What I a finding though, is this business of Juno thrown into the mix, is causing a strange contradiction.
I feel as if I am clear and naked, but within a smoke and mirrors environment.
Now, notice I said feel, because feeling something when one is within a “smoke and mirrors room” can be distorted, this I have learned from experience, and I never forget what I have learned the hard way.
Discernment, and not knee-jerk reactions/assumptions is always advisable in these situations.
Just because I feel this way, does not mean that anyone is necessarily trying to play, the smoke and mirrors game with me.
It likely just means I am so on my game right now, that I am so focused and clear for myself, that it seems as if others are full of innuendo’s and are projecting an air of uncertainty as to what they want with me, or when they want it with me, or even, if they want anything at all.
I am doing the best I can to pratice patience with all of this, yet some days, I am a little short on the patience.
And yes..this involves love interests.
And I am left, almost daily, in this place of, “He wants me….. Huh???!!!Β He wants me not???”
Yet, I am also quite amused.
And, I am absolutely not stressed.
If anything, I am more detached now, from relationship concerns, than likely I have ever been.
Concerning these love interests of mine, I think to myself, “Come on baby, show your cards, lay ’em full up”, and let’s get on with it.”
Again, I am in No Place for Smoke and Mirrors.
YET, maybe none of these love interests, are actually trying to be all smokey with me.
OR, maybe they absolutely are.
“Welcome to the land of conundrums and contradictions, try not to hurt yourself in all that smoke.” (((winking)))
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So, what I am doing with all of that?
I am projecting, only the “Self”, I know myself to be.
No camoflauge, no false- shiny or cutsie on the days I am anything but.
I am letting it all hang out I suppose.
I am doing absolutely everything, my Mother, warned me not to do if I ever expected to find a mate.
As far as I’m concerned, it is going quite well..no one has run off shrieking and traumatized as of yet.
And I am waiting, for at least one ( hey, I’m not greedy), to step out of that darn smoke and mirrors space, so I can get a clear view of the ‘what’s what’.
Too..I am staying open, and unemotional about the possibility, that no one is coming out of the smoke and mirrors.
Maybe it is just not time.
I’ve got some great possibilities though, but I am not going to attach alot to that, just going to walk it through.
I have never had any desire of owning another, nor do I wish to be owned.
I do thoroughly believe we partner when it serves a purpose, for both parties, and I know when I and another have a purpose for a commited partnering, it will take place.
And yet (((a bit of sardonic laughter here))), I look up to the top of this blog I have just penned, and I say to myself, “Who the hell are you kidding sweetie..those transits are looking an awful lot like partnership is going to be your main deal for awhile, and it is incoming fast..as soon a that damn smoke clears.”
So, for now, I am just enjoying every second of it all, even in my occasional moments of impatience..and I am writing, a lot.
You see, our creativity is seated within our 2nd chakra(sacral), which is also home to our human sexualty drive.
So, I am writing tons of material, my drafts are crammed.
Got to channel that nuclear sex energy somewhere, you know?
And it is ALL GOOD…… π
Experiencing similar, or just want to chat about it? Jump in and share what you think.
Well, I have Pluto right on my Scorpio DSC natally, squarind my Sun and Jupiter and let me tell you that there are terrifying moments happening when I escape my detachment and realize that there is a possibility that NOONE, NOT EVEEEEEER will escape the ‘smoke and mirrors’ room. They haven’t until now and I greatly fear they will never.
I greatly fear a lifetime partnership with Pluto! Which I am sure is fun, sort of like living in a horor movie non stop!
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Relationship astrology can be quite complex, yet the bottom line I feel, no matter what is within your astrology signature, or that of others, is to strive to be honest within your relationships at all times, with both yourself and the other, and to practice detachment routinely, not taking it personal if someone does not ‘measure’ up to your standards, or you, to theirs.
I believe we all have many possibilities for partners that are good matches with us, the trick though, is to wait for the proper match..to often we leap into a match that is so-so for fear of being alone, and I wonder how many times we do that we had we just waited a bit longer, someone really wonderful for us would have walked through that door.
There is also something to be said for realism though, and not holding expectations of ‘perfect’ of another, for that just sets one up for disappointment…if you can allow another to express their flaws and shortcomings you will likely earn a trust from them that allows them to open up to you on more intimate levels, where often, our greatest ‘beauty’ resides.
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Hi Kachina!
I love what you wrote here! While doing a search for Juno transit to Pluto (in my 7th) this popped up. The subject and study of relationships is extraordinarily fascinating. I have learned the lesson , hopefully well, concerning relationships being likened to holding up a mirror and gazing at ourselves while simultaneously face to face with a partner. If we don’t like what we see, we can choose to evolve, possibly resulting in the realization that our partner is no longer suitable for us.
Love the smoke and mirror thing as well. It IS important to speak the truth and be direct with someone. Being silent when we should speak up or giving someone an unclear impression of what we are thinking, attracts the wrong people.
Detachment allows our emotions to step aside in order for us to think clearly. My Moon in Cap is also in the 12th, squared by Neptune. My Decendant is 24* Cancer.
Incidentally, in a roomful of decent people and one jerk, guess who seeks me out? Working very hard on rectifying this. In the past, my forhead must have said “Jerks welcome here; come one, come all”.
Love what you write, Kachina! You are a wise, deep and compassionate woman.
Love and Hugs,
Jan
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Hello there! I am very curious as to how you feel this transit transformed you after it was all overwith? Pluto is soon to be “kissing” my descendant as well, and let’s just say that the cafeastrology definition of this transit isn’t the clearest on what to expect. I also use new-astrology.com for transits, and this is what it said for this transit:
You will not be happy with yourself or content with your lot, your life or your work. You could completely change your opinions, ideas, taste. This change would probably not be beneficial. You will go too far in your revolt against routine, habits etc…. Your circle will leave you alone, because you will be unbearable.
Which just births a forboding of a lot of negativity in my mind… Anyways… I think you explain very well how the transit brought the “real” out of you. I can feel myself struggling all the time in that aspect, so in a way, I am very much looking forward to this transit if what you say is applicable to me. Interestingly enough though… throughout that same transit, my bf is experiencing pluto square venus, and conjunct mars. I am thinking that it is possibly going to be intense between us. What do you think? They all begin when we are supposed to move in with each other.
Your thoughts would be much appreciated! Thanks:)
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Hi Natalie~
I am still forging my way through this transit..Pluto will not cross over my DSC until early spring.
As for new-astrology’s interpretation: I am currently dissatisfied with a lot in my life..though I have many other influences occurring at this time such as my progressed Venus square natal Moon and pr. Moon opposing natal Moon that I feel are lending to the feeling of dissatisfaction more so than Pluto transiting my DSC. I do feel like shaking off routine..but that is nothing new for me and even so I haven’t had anyone tell me they are finding me unbearable(no more than is usual anyway..ha!). I am networking and making many new connections quite a bit this past year not losing any.
Pluto is strong in my chart and squares both my Moon and Mars natal…so I am fairly used to be challenged by women and sometimes men in very odd ways. I have found from experience though there is NO challenge if you refuse to play ball…with Pluto it is about learning to stand strong in your own space and center and not be a rug per se, and this is best accomplished IMO by taking nothing personally. If ‘attacked’..state your piece, be firm and honest, and be at peace with what you said/did…then let it go.
As for you and your boyfriend..keep it honest and upfront..everything. Communicate..a lot. And get physical in healthy ways, especially while his Pluto-Mars is in play…though I think healthy physical expression is always a good thing. Take up activities together or individually that is going to burn that energy off in good ways..sex is a great avenue for directing Pluto energy but so is anything that gives you a chance to feel regenerated.
Please come back and update on your progress through you transit! xx
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Hi Again, Kachina!
This is my second time around to read this piece and your words are heart-felt and inspiring; truly exceptional thinking, Kachina.
Having Pluto natally in my 7th house (well aspected), I felt it imperative to study that position of Pluto for healthy relationship evolvement. Jeff Green’s books on Pluto are almost mandatory here. I also did extensive searches on Google; anything pertaining to Pluto in the 7th and all information concerning Pluto and relationships. Pluto in the 7th or 5th WILL attract Plutonians. Scorpio is on my MH and my Dad was a Scorp and so is my boss! I love Scorpios (fascinated with ’em). Eye popping knowledge on this subject is like gold to the soul.
Pluto relationships can turn not only us, but our partners inside out, upside down and sideways until we understand it, and probably even when we do understand it. Equality in relationships is what we are striving for; that is the goal. Anything sneaky or underhanded must be exposed, laid out on the table open for discussion and review. Anything which evenly faintly smacks of abuse in any way should not be tolerated or delivered. Pluto (Scorpio) will test our limits and we must know how and when to say “NO” or say “Read my lips, what is it about NO that you don’t understand”? Intensity is surely the word here with Pluto. Our relationships delve into the depths, sometimes good, sometimes unhealthy. It is our responsibility to ourselves to stay healthy if we desire growth.
Having come from an alcoholic home, there were no boundaries allowed or taught and the smoke was so thick you could cut it. It became a habit to look the other way; don’t rock the boat, or there would be Hell to pay! This followed me into the relationship arena as an adult. No boundaries and looking the other way when I should have spoken up was a sure fire combination set-up for relationship failure and unfulfillment for me. I consider myself much evolved from that little lost lamb open to possible robbery of empowerment and respect. Zillions of years ago, someone said to me “Don’t give your power away.” I didn’t know what they meant at the time, but never forgot those words. Now I know!
Kachina, I also have Juno in my 6th house. The unsuitable partner I have now, we cannot work on ANYTHING together! It would turn into a knock down drag out! But, perhaps we worked together on empowering me; him trying to take my power, me giving it to him, then me standing up in total full self-empowerment and him scratching his head! He must be thinking, “What the Hell happened here?” Perhaps we did work on that together. Haha ha….
AND….when relationships are finished, there is nothing more to add. The container is full and the relationship has served it’s purpose and the lesson is complete. Time to move on. I wish I could…..just waiting….I so want it to be over, I’m ready.
Yesterday he got arrested and cannot drive anymore. Many more problems now. Traniting Pluto is in my 12th house conjunct my Moon who rules my 7th house. HIS natal Pluto in conjunct my Decendant.
Love and Hugs,
Jan
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You’ve made many fabulous points here concerning the nature of Pluto and I’ve been rereading your post the past few days.
Pluto involvement in relationships to me is a lesson of learning that you own no one..not just on a mental level but a true embodiment of what that means. That anything that another shares with you..they do so as a gift, of their own free-will, and that we do not have the right to demand anything from another that they are not willing to give of free-will. It means no subtle manipulations designed to steer an others thoughts, words or deeds to suit your own agenda’s. It certainly does not allow for strong-arming another in anyway…nor offering ‘golden carrots’ as a means to bind another to you. Often with a dysfunctional Scorpionic/Plutonian personality or relationship the above dynamics are present to some degree.
I found it interesting that you mention you’re Pluto is well aspected and that you love Scorpio’s. I, on the other hand, have a Pluto that has many challenging aspects so I had to learn the difference of a positive functioning Scorp from a negative one. My father, as well as one partner that I lived with for a bit over a year, were both dysfunctional Scorp’s(my dad has his ASC-Sun-Chiron-Merc-Mars-Jupiter all in Scorpio) and both of these men saw me as their property. My solution with my father was leaving home at 15…but then this other man came along because I hadn’t yet got the ‘lesson’. Fortunately I did get it fairly quickly when the relationship became physically detrimental for me..and I decided right there and then no more..not with him, nor anyone else, ever. Never a positive purpose in allowing ourselves to be abused..{{yeah, I had a huge martyr complex and naively thought that I could ‘fix’ others that had no desire to be fixed}}
You know Jan..you and your current partner situation has some similar tones to me with mine. π Seems we are attending the same dance..glad we have each other to meet at the refreshment table between numbers to giggle and share notes together. π
Ah..Juno-6th…I CRAVE a partner that I can work with..someone who’s skills and mine are complimentary…my ex-husband and I were able to do little things together…but my partners since apparently have no desire or are unable to ‘work’ with me, or I them(?). It’s quite strange really…a force I cannot identify seems to intervene that even when we wish to ‘create’ or do something together there is always something that occurs that prevents it. I think I shall have to have another look about at that “force”..I may have another something to adjust…
Yes..time to move on I think..very soon..in some way…
Love, K
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Hi Kachina!
Your response to my post was awesome and I so wanted to reply immediately to it; however, the screws have been tightening, so to speak, and there is stress and tension surrounding me now in various new ways. Coping is a challenge.
My husband will never drive again and he has a myriad of serious medical ailments. There is no way I can leave now and he needs significant aid from me. That 12th house Moon of mine cannot get solitude to recharge and as we are not compatible, the stress is incredible. My skin is reacting on the face and neck resulting in red itchy blotches and it feels as if my nervous system is backing up. I have a close relationship with Angels and have read that they will not interfere in our life situations unless asked. I have asked for their assistance.
Work is stressful as well. To add some humor here, my boss is asking that on Black Friday (day after Thanksgiving) I work a shift that starts at 4:15 AM. My private reaction: “Hell, NO!” This shows the ridiculousness of the stress. Not doing it!
My husband and I in chart comparison each have Juno conjunct each other’s Chiron. I haven’t discovered any info on that. What would your guess be, Kachina? Is this about wounding AND healing each other? Caregiving service? It feels significant. My Chiron is in my 8th in Libra and conjunct Neptune.
I WILL get through this.
Now, about you…..It seems as if your situation like many of us, has been in a holding pattern for so long. Decision making in this case is so difficult. It may feel as if all the facts are not on the table or clear or that it simply is not time yet to make a move or is it? A hard call. In times past, from my personal experience, we feel it in our heart and senses that the time is NOW to “go for it” or we may simply be pushed by life circumstances and the decision is made for us. We might ask ourselves, “What needs to be finished up before we can go forward?” Did we learn the lesson presented to us for this particular relationship? We surely don’t want to face this lesson again with someone else! How can we know when this Karma is complete? Going direct shortly will be Venus and Neptune and then around the corner Uranus and Jupiter will be sprinting into Aries. These occurances will surely create a whole new life senario. My thoughts are with you and all best wishes are traveling to you as well.
One last thought. With all of the current planetary gymnastics and gyrations in the sky, most of us are feeling vulnerable and insecure; feeling as if we are laid out spread Eagle on a surgical table waiting for a major surgical operation on our lives. But….the surgery keeps getting postponed. I mingle with hundreds of people at work and most everyone I see appears ill at ease, insecure and uncomfortable. Many of my co-workers have serious problems. My guess would be that there are more Heavenly Angels down here on Earth than ever before! We just need to look for the signs and receive them.
Love to you, Kachina and Love to All,
Jan
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Pulled away from hectic busyness (I have Moon/ Mars in Sag!) to come here to read this tonight. I hope you guys know how awesome you are. I feel privileged to drop in on such a wise and supportive conversation. Nobody in my life currently has anywhere near this kind of insight or care. Bless you Jan and Kachina- your testing is equal to the stature of your spiritual growing – may you be blessed with patience, wisdom and love.
(Incidently, my Juno is conjunct Pluto – my chart ruler in the 9th in a grand fire trine with Venus, Mars and the Moon, The current square of Pluto to my Sun is for sure preparing me for that Jupiter/ Uranus ingress, Not long now!)
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Morvah, Hi!
You are so very sweet! Your post response warmed my heart. It feels extraordinarily wonderful when we touch people and they touch us back. Yes, I post to gain wisdom and insight for my own situation, but also hoping that simultaneously, my thoughts and experiences may help and motivate others. It’s about sharing and laying it all out on the table. That is important to me. Does it not feel as if we are ALL trying to find our way here—-out of the dark.
Yes, I feel that Juno conjunct Pluto is significant. My Juno is conjunct Saturn my chart ruler. Your trine is wonderful. I have an Air Trine with Mercury, Neptune and Uranus.
We are both HUGE fans of Kachina. I think she is absolutely awesome! I feel incredibly at ease here. It’s like HOME…..
Love and Hugs,
Jan
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Kachina!
OMG! I’ve got news! I feel woosey…..We are talking about relationships, here. Life has been exceedingly black lately and so stressful……Okay…..out of the blue, my daughter calls on the phone to tell me that on Face Book, she received a message from…..(drum roll) an old lover of mine from when I was 13 years old to 23 years old (long term relationship). He was a major love of my life, captain of the football team, handsome, arrogant, perfect posture. I was madly in love with him. Never allowed to date him as he was 4 years older than I was. My parents were adamant. We drifted apart…..3 months after I had my daughter I ran into him in town and he looked at her and said, “I wish she was mine.” Now he is looking me up! I’m frightened to death! Feel like a school girl. Goosebumps! Venus is retro and Pluto is squaring my Venus. I need to get grounded here. I think about him every year on his birthday. He is a Leo in my 7th house and his Sun is on my natal Pluto. Help!
My life and everybody’s life is so very odd right now. We are all scratching our heads. It is such an incredible time!
Love and Hugs to you,
Jan
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Hi Morvah and Jan!
I have been missing sooo much going on here..woo!
Jumping in feet first..
Jan: Yes, everything is odd and swirling about..past, present, future..and all trying to find it’s space and place.
Ok..past guy coming forward> Feeling like a schoolgirl can be exhilarating and can boost you out of a rut..so enjoy it! π That FEELING in and of itself has so much value for you right now..regardless of the specifics of this situation or what the outcome becomes…that is you’re sure bet right there. Grab onto those vibes and let them saturate other area’s where you have been feeling stagnated and need juiced.
As for your Pluto on his Sun…power, sex, purpose…all of these are emphasized between the two of you. Normally it would be said that the Pluto person has more power over the Sun person..but in your 7th you may transfer your Pluto to him..for better or worse.
You have been working towards balance for some time..if he has matured likewise over the years..could be quite dynamic between you. π
Still musing over the Chiron-Juno connections..will get back to you on those!
Morvah: Love having you here!..you gift us with such amazing vibes…I always feel such an incredible serenity in you..I wonder if that surprises you with all of your fire going on? π
Have more to share soon..my lengthy absences of late have been stemming from health issues compliments of Prog. Moon in 6th(and now opposing natal Moon) and have been requiring my economizing of energy. Seeing the end of this one though..and looking forward to my next progression.
Much love to you both! xo
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WordPress isn’t accepting my email address and swallowing my posts! (lowers horns menacingly). Any ideas?
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Ah! that seemed to do the trick! (giggles).
#3! Thanks for the lovely compliments – you both made my day!
@Jan – A little magic never goes amiss IMO !!
Kachina, Hope you’re feeling better. I have noticed that Moon transits and progs always manifest in the body. (mine’s in 1st) I would think a 12th house moon would tend to hide emotional wounds deep in the female body – we are taught to hide our sorrows and of course often it’s necessary for protection. It will pass my dear, Mother yourself as best you can and continue to nourish and rest yourself wisely. Difficult, I know but you must or the body will insist! Now I have Mothered you also so be well soon!
Gentle hug! Morvah
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